Saturday, 21 May 2011

Overrated New Zealand


Of all the countries we have visited on our expedition, probably the most disappointing has been New Zealand. However, before you throw your arms around and screw up your face in incredulous disbelief, read on. We are not philistines, who cannot appreciate what is in front of them, nor do we like to go against the grain just because everybody is going a certain way. Simply, we think New Zealand is overrated. Let me explain. Have you ever been to see a film after you have spoken to various people and read numerous reviews that have told you how amazing it is and, in doing so, inadvertently hyped the film to the point where you had to see it and you were consequently expecting big things from it? And then all your expectations accumulated into anti-climax and disappointment when you discovered that, while the film was really good and you were glad you went to see it, there was no way it could have lived up to all the hype it was receiving through various forms? I’m sure you came away wishing that you had held no pre-conceived ideas about the film so you could have formed your own opinions about it. Know what I mean? Well, this is exactly how we felt about New Zealand.

There is no doubt in our minds that New Zealand is a beautiful country on both islands and it would be hard to convince you otherwise on account of the photos we recently posted but the fact is, any remark by anyone previous to our visit there usually consisted of something like ‘I loved it’ or ‘New Zealand is amazing’ or ‘I want to emigrate there,’ and so on. So, as you can imagine, we went there with all kinds of positive expectations that no country could live up to. What we found was that the north island looked a lot like Wales in terms of the green hills full of sheep (incidentally there is actually 40 million sheep to 4 million people in NZ), ruggedly beautiful deserted beaches and small, scarcely populated villages of not-so friendly people. Unlike in Wales though, New Zealand’s towns and villages contained little or no historical value and consisted of faceless, pre-fabricated buildings, which consequently formed places seriously lacking in soul or character. The south island is more alpine with mountains and glaciers, glacial lakes and the kind of scenery that comes with it. Certain places of interest billed as “voted number one in New Zealand’s 100 must-see places to visit” paled in comparison to those you might see in, say, Canada. And therein lay the problem. Without trying to sound pompous and conceited, we have been across the Canadian Rockies. We have seen this kind of scenery before in a place that is even more epic. We acknowledge that to not evaluate it in its own right and compare it was unfair, but that is exactly what we couldn’t help doing since the scenery was so similar to places we have been, either those attached to England or across the Atlantic.
 
There is another aspect to my argument here, in addition to the country being unhelpfully overhyped for us. Those who professed to us that New Zealand is amazing undoubtedly visited on holiday with a significantly different monetary budget. When you are able to pay for skydiving, bungee jumps, helicopter rides over glaciers and every boat trip offered around a lake, of course it’s going to be bloody amazing! If we were on holiday there is no doubt those things are exactly what we would have done too. But it brings up an interesting consideration. Why should a place be amazing because of the things you did? Can’t it be amazing without them? If the answer is no then surely the place itself is not actually that amazing. After all, when it comes down to it, in the grand scheme of tourism a holiday is a chance to meet a country’s representative – its metaphorical sales rep who will show and sell all the good bits while everything else gets conveniently and temporarily shoved in a corner until you’re gone. To see what a country and its people is really like, one would have to spend a significant amount of time there assimilating into society and allowing it to get under their skin. I am not suggesting that we have been able to do that in many of the places we have been to, such is the nature of our trip, but perhaps we would have liked some of them more if we had spent extended amounts of time there, even New Zealand. It is important to form an opinion of a country as it is with no ideas pre-attached but in this technological day and age, where one can acquire information from inescapable amounts of communication, this is impossible. What I am sure of, though, is that those countries we visited with little or no preconceptions about them very often left us with very positive and favourable views, enough to make us want to go back there. And more often than not, it is the people of a place that significantly determined our opinions of it – the old adage that it is the people that make a place is truer than you can imagine.

41 comments:

  1. Best blog yet - such truth in what you've written! Can imagine reading that in the Guardian travel section. If you haven't got a job lined up for your return maybe you should consider it!! x

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  2. As a 7 year resident of New Zealand from the UK I can't help but agree with everything you wrote. We moved here and we've yet to see the "wow" factor that was described to us. We saw much better and more accessible scenery in Switzerland where we could take amazing mountain trains that ran faultlessly on-time through historic and picturesque villages, which are in marked contrast to the car-centric, featureless towns that one often happens across in New Zealand.

    I am very glad that someone else feels as I do.

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  3. I too went to New Zealand this year expecting great things and was very disappointed. The previous summer we went to Switzerland and it was an amazing place with fantastic scenery, beautiful villages, towns and cities, so much happening, a great atmosphere, lovely places to eat and drink, it was a magical place.
    We went to New Zealand this year hoping for another wonderful holiday but there was something about New Zealand that was depressing.
    We did see some lovely scenery on the South Island but other than that there was nothing good about the country. We found the cities soulless and dead, it was not pleasant walking around any town or city, there was nothing to see or do. There wasn't much happening at all in New Zealand other than some games of rugby (I don't like rugby). I didn't see any nice towns or villages, it was just like a spending a sunday in a lifeless boring place.
    New Zealand is so over rated, a lot of people in the UK seem to talk about it as if it is some magical place they dream of seeing, they clearly don't realise what the reality is.
    I also very much agree that whenever you see travel programmes in New Zealand you always see them doing things like bunjee jumping, white water rafting, helicopter rides, etc - is that what makes a place good? You never see them doing normal things as there is nothing to do.

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    1. so true, I am so glad other people see this about nz, I live here and am from the uk, and other than being on a larger scale than my home there is nothing better about nz at all, it has a lack of atmosphere and no history along with quite often bleak and desolate landscapes. give me wales, Switzerland or Canada any day!

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    2. Well maybe our idea of normal is different to your's? just a thought. please think before you post these comments. And for the record NZ has plenty of history if you look at the Maori history insted of just the English. Which you must of done if you're going to complane about our history.
      - the 12-year-old Kiwi

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    3. Nz is a boring island filled with trailer park trash

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  4. My wife and I also just returned from spending a month for our honeymoon in New Zealand. The country definitely has its highlights and majestic scenery but we also felt outside of the tourist spots the rest of the areas felt neglected or depressing. We also felt because of our age (late 20's) that we were sometimes frowned upon or refused service in certain areas. At times it felt like you were a walking wallet :)

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    1. I felt like a "walking wallet" many times in our four weeks there. (By industry only. Regular civilians were extremely generous and kind with us, white Western hetero couple.)

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  5. Awesome, I am glad someone else said it. I have a business in NZ and, initially, was more taken back by the "exotic" nature of the growth opportunity in a remote, english speaking, democratic (although socialist) and island based locale. However, a few months later, our best adjectives that could find to describe NZ weren't too encouraging. Cold, damp (most of the time wet), dreary, unfriendly, boring and green(north island)/white(south island) place. Our friends too are in awe of the place only because they have not been. Don't get me wrong, NZ has some really nice places, but it is way oversold. I typically advise people that NZ has simply perfected their marketing, the place is nothing like what you hope it will be. And yes, there are a lot of sheep, but there are more in Australia and it is a much more interesting and intriguing country. AOTEAROA, the land of the long white cloud and that pretty much sums it up.

    You want a good laugh about NZ... check this out by their bigger brother, Australia...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo6fgZ-dbOw

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    1. We can't control the weather, you must have gone at the wrong time. And New Zealanders are friendly to people that are friendly to us. Kindness is a two way street.
      -the 12-year-old kiwi

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    2. 7 days in NZ so far and it is the most disappointing trip of my life. Have been to over 30 countries. NZ has some beautiful places, but if you've been to haHawa and Caribbean and Canada and Alaska and Iceland and Ireland and the wineries in Italy, France and California really nothing impressive to see except the glowing worms caves and some endemic species. People are not friendly at all. Hotels rated 4* are just horrible for most part and I've stayed in many 2* hotels in US that are much higher quality. Can't wait to get back home and have 0 desire to come back.

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  6. Not a place I would recommend, some disgruntled migrants even set up a page to warn others

    http://www.expatexposed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1347

    http://www.expatexposed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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  7. Thanks all for your positive comments on the blog post. I don't ever want to beat a country down. We both believe that you have to spend a period of weeks in a country for it to 'get underneath your skin', so to say you've been to Africa because you spent 5 days there in one place, have you really been there?

    I suspect that if we had spent more time there, this would have happened and we would have had a chance to learn more about the Kiwi way of life and culture etc etc. However, this is not what's marketed to us. I completely agree with the comment regarding how clever NZ is marketed.

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  9. I've lived and traveled in New Zealand for about a year in total, and I couldn't agree more. There are many things that are oversold about the place, the two biggest being the scenery and the friendliness of the people. And especially the latter. New Zealand has has as many a$$holes, maybe more, than the average place.

    But there is another reason not to go to New Zealand, it is WILDLY expensive. I'd say you pay more for less here than almost any place in the world.

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    1. Our scenery is beautiful thanks, you must have gone to the wrong places. And I'm pretty sure that calling the people of an country A**holes falls under the A**hole catagory. Maybe if you weren't a such an A**hole to people, people woudn't be an A**hole to you. kindness (and unkindness is a two way street).
      _ the 12-year-old kiwi

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    2. Dont be angry... NZ is a trash overeated nation filled with grimy lowlufe scums like you. You NZ'ers gotta be exposed and have your tourism boycotted for lying about your overrated trashy country.

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    3. Very well said indeed!!!!

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  10. I've been in NZ for 4+ years and all i can say is do not ever come here. I am so glad i found this entry. The standard of living is close to that of a third world country, there is no insulation, buildings in the city are ugly shoe boxes. It is very expensive and people here are ignorant. Its not easy making friends here as kiwis tend to stick to their own groups. YOU CANT SAVE. Rent is expensive. Groceries are expensive, the only upside for a fellow resident is free medical health. Sure they probably make it free because living here makes you sick. DO YOURSELF a favour and never ever come to the "land of the big long shit".

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    1. I am resident and, I and my wife, as basically anyone coming from overseas like us, try not to go to doctor here since they do not have experience and, literally, test on you... we heard so many stories of people complaining about the lack of knowledge of local doctors and we ourselves have many bad experience on it, we cannot ignore all of this. As most of the people coming from overseas, we take advantage of any holiday we have to go back to our country, not just for visiting family and friends (and, possibly, "not soulless" places), but also to make a full body check up and cure what we cannot get handled back in NZ. So, yeah, "free tests" (nope, we still must pay annually the doctor, but if they prescribe us some tests, these are for free), but most of us just prefer going to the doctor overseas :)

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    2. As a born and raised New Zealander I do NOT appreciate you calling New Zealand the"land of the big long shit". And most of us Kiwis are quite friendly you Know, so
      I'm sorry that you don't know how to make friends?
      The reason that all our things are so expensive is that we're so small. I understand that you don't like New Zealand(your loss, our gain) but surely you realised that we New Zealanders would not appreciate it. Next time think before you speak(or comment)
      - the 12-year-old Kiwi

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  11. I don't know why the people in the Uk compare countries so much? Maybe because you have the oppotunity to travel the world and are always looking for something better and if you don't ,then you become dissapointed.

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  12. Completely agree with this I originally came for the long haul from the UK but after been here 8 months will probably go back within a year . The scenery is great but for me there simply isn't enough going on in the city's I always thought i would love the quiet life .... How wrong I was definately do a holiday here first for 2-4 weeks if you plan on coming permanently.

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  13. I am a New Zealander – I agree that New Zealand is not perfect, but at the same time, none of the residents can control the way the country is marketed. Some parts of New Zealand are better than others (Our big cities are getting crowded from people coming from overseas). Also, you don't have to have money to do nice things – you could go on a road trip around the south island, or go to our (Free) national museum. There are many things to do here; far too many to do in just one holiday, and I hope more people do come here for a visit! :-D

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  14. I've just got back from visiting NZ and have also visited Australia, and am trying to choose between which to migrate to. I agree with a lot of what is said about the country. It is expensive, though I found the lack of choice in goods to be a much bigger issue. Australia is about the same in terms of cost, but light-years ahead in terms of choice and quality. The fact the supermarkets basically come down to a duopoly between PnS/New World and Woolies/Countdown only makes things worse, combined with the lack of online options (no local Amazon and Ebay in Kiwiland!)

    Housing is, quite frankly, shockingly bad, as is the choice, price and quality of furniture and white goods. The quality of construction is terrible and NZ builders seem blissfully unaware that NZ is a damp and chilly place in winter. Damp-proofing and draught-proofing are just utterly alien concepts.

    However, I disagree about the people and scenery. Whilst NZ towns are surprisingly run-down much of the time, the natural beauty of the place is undeniable. Being able to look out of the window in the capital (though the ever present condensation) and see the mountains and bay that circle the city was soul-lifting, and I couldn't fault the friends I made there. Helpful and kind the lot of them.

    So yes, NZ definitely doesn't live up to the hype, but it does have it's redeeming features, and that does make my choice less straightforward than it would otherwise be.

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  15. Wonderful post. I've been living in the capital for 4 months now. I'm originally from NA. It really does boil down to NZ being overrated. If it wasn't. It would be a gem. A sweet place, misguided, but charming. There really is a sense of inferiority here in the people. The friendly and kind people (which is lovely) go on and on and on about how wonderful their city and their country is, and I didn't even ask them what they think. It's pretty, it's relatively clean, it's calm, but it's dull, void, and delusional.

    It really is a shame. The only thing this country has going for it as far as improvement, is all the immigrants coming in and bringing life and flavour to a boring piece of toast.

    If you want to travel the world, and you skip NZ, you are honestly, without a doubt, not missing anything.

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    1. um rude there missing everything nz is the best

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    2. How is it the best when your country dont have any city but sh1tty villages and subway sation? Oh and explain why youth suicides in NZ are prevalent you trashy loser

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  16. And more expensive it gets all the time, not clean, not green and certainly not leading the world, well maybe in poverty, bad weather and suicide.
    It's expensive to do the most basic of things here and society doesn't stand behind anything worth fighting for.
    Food prices are out of control with little to no competition.
    DON'T COME TO LIVE HERE!!

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    1. NZ is one of the most safe, reliable countries. If you don't like it move away you haven't seen the quality of our products and if you want to by cheep american shit, go live there.

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    2. NZ is the most overrated sh1thole in the world. And nz scumbags like you are dying of depression and suicides

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  17. This is stupid, if you don't like it you can piss off! New Zealand is a safe green country so if you want you can stick your ugly as comments up your ass!!!

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  18. you cheap american people

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  19. stop complaining about new zealand go to austraia if you want

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  20. i think nz is the best country yes alot of people commit suicide but we are actually much more clean and green than america and alot of other country bradas

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  21. Why am I here? Because we just returned from 4 weeks in NZ and wanted to be sure we weren't totally crazy. Overrated is the word. For the distance and expense, what is good in NZ can be got elsewhere, nearer, for less. And what is bad in NZ is unwelcome when you've paid so much and traveled so far. I can never say I regret going to a place because we learn and grow from all travel and there's much that I enjoyed, but I also can't truly recommend NZ unless someone has a genuine, undying desire to go.

    I could add a lot to your post, but I think you've hit the mark-- if not for those expen$$$ive attractions/experiences, would it still have been worth the money and time it took to get there? If I'm being fair and honest.........

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  22. I have never been there but NZ was high on my list of places to move to from South Africa. We ended up going to the UK instead and there are times where we wonder if we did the right thing. I would sooner move elsewhere than go back to South Africa, but the friends I know who moved to NZ are really happy there. I do often hear about the cost of things, but I see most of them already have houses and they look GREAT compared to those in the UK. The flight to NZ though it just to far for me so I do not know if I will ever get to see that side of the globe. Just sharing my story :)

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  23. Wow, well I will totally agree with others here - I am here right now having landed last week from Japan and NZ is *very* overrated. I've travelled a long way to find a mostly dull and lifeless place that also happens to be one of the most expensive places I have ever visited.Tokyo is more affordable. The comment about the people being delusional really struck - its undeniable, if you go on and on about how friendly you are, you probably are not. It is not for you to judge! I certainly didn't find that as I am nickel and dimed daily. Most places are staffed by disinterested backpackers anyway. Most of the news programmes on television seems geared toward smugly propagating a myth of NZ superiority to the rest of the World so perhaps that's where they get it from, a very tiny country trying to compete internationally . In reality it is ridiculously expensive for the clearly lower quality of goods, food, service and lodgings. 4 stars in NZ would equal to 2 1/2 elsewhere. The scenery is however fantastic and can enjoy it with the empty roads but that's about it. Yes I've found it 100% marketed.

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  24. I am a New Zealander and I agree with this post and some of the other commenters. A small portion of New Zealanders go overseas and realise how we were brainwashed from the beginning, through school and in our media to believe we are in the best country on earth. NZ is a very remote and poor country. It has serious Island Mentality, in which we tell ourselves we are better than every other country to cope with the isolation and low standard of living. It's a pretty rough life here for some. Some people enjoy it, but even with some modern comforts I find the culture and the housing to be absolutely dismal. You are paying top dollar for nothing compared with other parts of the world. It takes 12 hours to get to any decent country asides from Australia, which is a bigger warmer and more prosperous NZ. It's not the most exciting holiday. Seriously just stay in Europe and enjoy the variety you have there. NZ is a sad place to be and I cannot wait to be out of here. I love it for my childhood memories and the friends I do have around, but really those people are incredibly hard to find.

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  25. I too am a New Zealander and agree with the post as well as some of the comments.
    Yes I too believed after travelling I felt like we were brainwashed in believing we are the best country in the world. I believe there is no such thing as the best country in the world.

    I agree with the post above about the media and the way that the society is with it being far away from anywhere else hard to talk about things like different cultures. I feel people are very friendly in general. But there's not really a lot to talk about. Isolation is the worst and the best thing about NZ.

    Being isolated is hell for a lot of people and at times myself I been to 35 countries I can understand where your coming from.

    Tall Poppy Syndrome and the racism is terrible. I have few close good friends from school years. But I admit it's hard to make really good friends. Like a lot of things everything is nice on the surface but deep down New Zealand has a dark side.Lot of people trying to fit in and because of the culture your always trying to be someone your not.

    Good for hunting,outdoors,snowboarding,hiking,
    scenery and rugby. Not much to talk about besides that and the weather.

    It has good things and bad things but I agree NZ is full of clever marketing. Most of the scenery you can find in different parts of the world. Europe,Canada,US and Japan etc. NZ is clean but not any cleaner or less than some countries in Europe.

    Yeah and NZ is really expensive in general I think almost or pretty much on par with some Scandinavian countries.

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  26. I am in New Zealand at this time and have been here since the end of November 2019.I have come on holiday and to visit my family for Christmas and New year celebrations. My family have been here about 14 years and are now New Zealand passport holders. We are from the United Kingdom. I came over for the first visit in 2011, and was here for 3 months, I found it an interesting place then as it was new to me. I did travel quite a lot for the time I spent here, then. I visited the north and south island, and especially found the west coast of the south island the best part of my sight seeing and scenery road trip. But I did find that the most of the time it was a boring holiday.Over rated and over marketed. The cost of living, such as food and goods are more expensive than what the UK is. This visit that I am on at this time, is just the same, with high prices for normal day to day living. Luckily I have had my family to provide me with a room and roof over my head. I feel that most of the Kiwi's are a friendly lot of people, and if you treat them with respect and a good attitude you get the same in return. Surely this is the same the world over.I do love my family and like to see them as often as I can, finances permitting. But I think it will be the last time that I make the long journey to New Zealand to visit them again.

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